PTSD

How (not) to build a conference panel

Apparently the usual difficulties of putting together a panel for an upcoming conference are exacerbated by 1) distance, 2) lack of caffeine, and 3) our usual inability to cope with a problem for any more than 30 seconds at a time. At least this time we both showed up for the IM meeting.

Again, minimal editing (spelling, so that we don't look too stupid, but not capitalization or other grammar errors. We've also taken out double postings caused by the caffeine thing.) This is a long one--but I couldn't figure out where the breaks would be to make it a series. So get over it.

9:29:02 P: oh there you are!
i just sent an email
9:29:25 E: am I late? I thought we said 9:30?
9:29:56 P: i think so! no, i wasn’t sure what time either since it is a holiday today. and i just got here so thought you might have been on and left
st bede's day
whoever he/she was
9:30:20 E: nah--I'm running late bc it's pouring rain
9:30:36 P: oh no! cold and windy here
am beginning to doubt whether they have summer
9:31:12 E: it's probably about three weeks in July
9:31:37 P: prob. when i leave. people have started walking around in t-shirts in THIS weather and i can't see how they survive
anyway...how was weber's b'day?
9:34:50 E: good--there was chocolate cake, and Weberman gave a lecture on the fractal stuff (abbott and his IR divisions). I thought it was fun, but not sure who else did.
9:35:06 P: ah...were there heaps of people?
i have decided that i think i know the first years after reading the CofI blog...but GSpice said they were all "save the world" types
9:36:11 E: not really—five guys. and me.
they are all save the world types--i think X may be the only exception
9:36:50 P: the nz-er or the dane?
i am just asking all these questions because am miffed i missed weber's b-day
cake
9:37:29 E: nz
if it helps, i didn't have any cake
too much sugar
but i heard it was good
9:38:19 P: ah...
blast. cake.
9:38:45 E: chocolate-raspberry cake, no less
Priya closed the conversation window. (9:39:27)
Priya disconnected (9:39:27)
Priya connected (9:39:46)
9:39:47 E: well okay then.
9:40:08 P: blah
sorry
9:40:16 P: msn kicked me out
9:40:22 E: not very nice of them
9:40:30 P: and i had finished writing this long sentence about trying to search for listservs
9:40:33 P: but typical
damn msn
listservs on students in security, etc for the conference panel
9:41:03 E: true. i sent you an email from the h2g2 site--it gives out new names.
9:41:07 P: and the name of it
have been reading reviews since i will not get to watch the film
9:42:31 E: that sucks. It opens next weekend; I was planning to go opening night, but now not sure--have Weberman’s gtown thing, an azalea party, and the dinner all that weekend
9:42:35 P: am trying to search for listservs but without success
eh?
9:43:15 E: how about this title: Terror and Typhoid: Security and Disease in the International Sphere
9:43:18 P: azalea party?
ahh...sphere
I like sphere
9:43:40 E: friend of HRDiva has about 50 azalea bushes, and is having a party to look at them
i thought it had a nice ring
9:43:57 P: oh...where?
that sounds like fun
9:44:01 E: kensington
9:44:04 P: yes, sphere
9:44:08 E: do we need a verb in the title?
9:44:12 P: where is that? sounds v posh and london
don't think so
9:44:33 E: it’s up by our house--one of the little towns that turned into a neighborhood
9:44:46 P: oh i see...sound v posh
and Weberman is having another dinner?
9:45:02 E: probably named after the one in england
yeah--he's really gung ho on this whole community thing
we're going to talk about the fractal stuff
9:45:21 P: ah...i reckon that is good
9:45:26 E: spose so.
9:45:32 P: oh i see...even better
i can see two phd-ers turning up for the monday thing
but maybe they will surprise us all
9:45:58 E: not sure how he got away with the sis fractal talk yesterday, but word's going to get around
9:46:03 P: are you and him doing that fractilisation paper?
ohhhh...it was about dept fractalisation?
9:46:22 E: sort of. he can't publish it before getting tenure, so there's no real hurry. not sure what’s up with it.
9:46:26 P: i thought it was theoretical
were any faculty there?
9:46:44 E: both. theory, and then some application to the department. basically, why we’re so weird
no faculty.
not sure they were invited
9:47:08 P: oh i see.
9:47:16 P: because last year, there were a few from what i recall
9:47:28 E: there were. not this year.
i think it was strategic
good news: SystemsGuru is going to back the methodology proposal
9:48:06 P: what? oh goody
senior prof with respect going to back it can only be good right?
9:48:25 E: should be able to do it now, i think
9:48:34 P: but if dean, RegionGuy and many others are in favour, how can FP resist?
9:48:36 E: she’s going to be pissed
9:48:42 P: seems rather weird to me
9:48:49 E: she will. but she'll probably lose
9:49:00 P: but does she really not understand that there ARE other methodologies about?
or just not care
9:49:17 E: she knows they're out there. but she thinks they're wrong
9:49:24 P: she always scared me. i never understood why X liked her so much
9:49:29 E: beats me
9:49:32 P: i mean, Weberman scares me too but not in a scary way
9:49:42 E: exactly
9:49:45 P: ah...NI and DB in action :D
blasted book
pops up everywhere
9:49:59 E: we were just talking about NI
9:50:07 P: who we?
what is he up to?
9:50:12 E: and how he and Weberman can disagree bc they agree on a lot
it was part of the fractal thing
9:50:34 P: ah i see
yes, that makes sense
9:50:55 E: so we need an abstract for the panel--any thoughts? i'm stuck
9:50:59 P: or even if disagree, then at least try understand the other person's position instead of trying to turn them into yours
9:51:09 E: something like that.
9:51:39 P: not yet. i was trying to see what people were about before even thinking of an abstract
9:51:44 E: I still have some reservations about the whole fractals in social life deal, but looking forward to talking about them w/ Weberman and others
9:51:58 P: prob start off with something boring and general ...
who else at party?
9:52:04 E: we still need a couple of sentences to send out, though
9:52:10 P: true
9:52:39 E: not sure yet. The usual suspects probably
it's still a week away, so no one's committing yet
9:52:55 P: boring and general...the impacts of security on disease and vice versa have continued ...
oh i see... was rather disturbed by blog pic of danish
in some exotically-named boat in egypt
9:53:30 E: yeah. you can pretty much assume that's who I mean
9:53:36 E: the kiwi one
9:53:57 E: asked if i wanted to go out with group for a drink last night, but had stupid DialogueMan class
drat
9:54:07 P: and have decided textual analysis of CofI blog is fun since can predict who wrote what now
9:54:16 E: was looking forward to discussion with phds.
9:54:22 P: oh..nice. yes, that one is easy to talk to (not that i know the danish one)
9:54:32 E: should do discourse analysis of cofi
we could write a paper on it
9:54:52 P: been having lots of discussions with PhDs here who all assume, as i said, i am loony
hehe...we could
and piss off an entire cohort at the same time
9:55:19 E: sounds like fun to me
9:55:33 P: phds here do not set out their methodological orientations
9:55:40 E: do they have them?
9:55:49 P: of course, they all do
9:55:57 P: but just assume there is no need to talk about that
9:56:04 E: vey odd
9:56:04 P: since it is "irrelevant"
had a professor yesterday, at a seminar, say "big words like ontology and epistemology are useless"
9:56:40 E: GSpice and i have decided that Weberman’s phd “followers” have a common obsession with methodology and doing very careful work
9:56:46 P: got your email just now about hitchhiker name
9:56:56 E: also, big useless words
9:57:08 P: yes. but even StructureMan would agree (he might not want to set his out but he'd agree)
9:57:14 E: so we're all sort of anal retentive in our own special ways
9:57:18 P: blast. i cant do it
blast
9:57:25 E: why?
9:57:26 P: indeed
it needs flash and i can't download that in my uni computer
9:57:48 E: that sucks.
9:57:51 P: ah well...just like the movie, i am not fated to know my hitchhiker name
9:58:01 P: indeed
9:58:05 E: I found an internet radio station that's playing entire depeche mode albums
9:58:05 P: damn danes
9:58:15 E: good day for me.
i'll go type your name in, and see what you get.
9:58:30 P: fantastic
just had an email from my dad who saw a bootlegged copy of H2G2 and is highly unimpressed
P: but then he has the old tv series (and radio tapes) so i think he is not keen on new versions
9:59:16 E: IX Belcerebon
P: i almost sound like the new pope
9:59:40 E: he wouldn't be big on it, I guess
9:59:42 P: almost
9:59:46 E: maybe you are the new pope
10:00:00 P: maybe...
10:00:07 E: am in love with dayglo radio
10:00:08 P: v worrying thought that
that rhymes
i am writing a new post for the blog but it is boringly academic
and some random person emailed me to say that i had used "going troppo" in a "wrong way"
which was hilarious though i deleted it
10:01:11 E: there's a right and a wrong way?
10:01:22 P: who knows...obviously not a fan of witty
or reader of witty
10:01:30 E: clearly
10:01:45 P: btw, getting back to the panel
think up a first line
for abstract
10:02:01 E: weird--i took an editing test (trying to find a job) and one of the problems was a paragraph on language games
10:02:37 P: oh i see...and?
10:02:40 E: how's this: Are security and disease related issues? Should they be? What links them, and what does that mean for the study of international relations? We are seeking papers on either the places where disease and terror are brought together, or analyses of the way that the discussion of the two comes together in the discipline.
10:02:52 E: just thought it was odd that witty is suddenly everywhere
argh. said nice things about radio, and now it's quit in the middle of a-ha
never mind, it's back
10:03:57 P: a-ha?
don't have radio at home here but have good old bbc when at uni
and all danish bus drivers listen to cheesy 80s songs which i barely remember
10:04:35 E: this is online--you know, 80s group that sings take on me
10:04:40 P: today was tina turner/rod stewart day
10:04:45 E: this is totally cheesy 80s
10:04:51 P: ah..they are danes, i think?
10:04:55 E: but not ina turner or rod stweart
10:05:06 E: misspelled all of that
10:05:10 P: big hair day, i think
10:05:14 E: ugh
prefer depeche mode. music of my childhood
10:05:34 P: btw, your abstract is great. feel like total slacker (which i am) for not doing any work
thailand was big on bad 80s music
10:05:57 E: not so hard. now we need to send it out
the whole country?
10:06:16 P: hehe...no, bangkok shopping malls
and since we didn't have air conditioning in the flat we lived, we lived a lot in shopping malls
though did little shopping
anyway...
10:06:54 E: makes sense to me
10:07:30 P: just copied and pasted the thingy on to word
10:07:52 E: okay.
10:08:13 P: i added a how question (though that is implied in your version)
...what links them? how are they linked and ...
since my bloody CRS comp distinction between what-why questions and how-possible questions were misunderstood by one of the graders
10:09:05 E: okay.
10:09:15 P: and do we have to say IR discipline?
since it says the discipline
but i guess any disciplines
oops
any discipline
10:09:46 E: beats me
am sending you word document for changes and editing.
10:10:28 P: blast. i just saved mine
comes together in international relations
that way we avoid disciplines altogether
10:11:00 E: sorry. already sent it
10:11:07 P: and fits with your sphere notion
ok..got it
ok. discipline because you say ir earlier. blast. i should really drink more coffee
10:13:12 E: okay. can't argue with that
beginning to wonder where the people I'm supposed to meet with are at
10:13:33 P: indeed. i also added the date of the conference so people can know if they can make it or not
10:13:40 E: good idea
10:14:03 P: blast
the date i have is for last year
Weberman should really update this blasted web site
is your meeting at uni? are you at uni?
10:14:43 E: huh. are you looking on the official site?
yeah. in the library
10:15:02 P: yes
the details are for last year
as is the call for papers
10:15:29 E: so maybe the deadline is wrong
10:15:50 P: ah. but i thought Weberman said that...
it had better not be wrong
am now at web site
RandomProf is the chair, it says
should i email and ask him?
10:17:07 E: I already did.
10:17:16 P: oh ok
wow...this is fun. like i think and work gets done
and i don’t need to do anything
bludging at its best
i am trying to find info on the linked page
10:18:02 E: okay. website is confusing--it also has two others as presidents
10:18:30 P: where? oh for 2003 and for 2204 i think
2004 i mean
10:18:46 E: one of them is going to live a very long time
10:19:15 P: [official conference announcement]
why?
did he just email you ?
oh...oops
that was a nepali thing
(just ignore me)
10:20:14 E: um. okay.
10:20:22 P: but i think the conference is november
10:20:37 E: okay. we'll go with that until I hear from Weberman
10:20:54 P: but still no deadline for panel submission
10:21:20 E: do you want to do the grad student workshop?
and I'm sure he knows deadline
10:21:35 P: no, i don't think so.
10:21:40 E: he's got nov listed as conference date
10:21:45 P: am too worried about having my stuff out in public
10:21:47 E: so your stuff must be right
10:21:56 P: that just sounded weird
10:22:00 E: ok. i thought it might be fun
10:22:03 P: oh ok.
i guess it could be
are you applying for it?
10:22:58 E: don't know. Would have to find out if they're doing anything like my work
10:23:02 P: i might but i need a lot more talking with Weberman in person before i try go do this thing in public
or with others
10:23:11 E: makes sense
10:23:14 P: i thought the RandomProf bloke was
no more info at all
10:23:46 E: not so sure now. plus, SystemsGuru likes someone else, who I'm pretty sure someone said was a bad idea. so now what do I do?
10:24:07 P: ohhh..blast. why could he be a bad idea?
and also keep in mind that both Weberman and SystemGuru to different extents don't really share your methodological orientations? perhaps.
no idea who he is so can't make any useful comments
is he into policy stuff? (though i think i am into policy stuff now since i spent the past two days finding holes in shotter's work)
btw, the PSA people have a lovely web site
about PSA NE
deadline for them in may 27
what happened?
10:28:12 E: sorry--got distracted. BH is guy who has done systems, but described as, if I remember right, an asshole that he likes me too much to inflict me with. But maybe that was someone else? I didn’t have my notecards.
10:28:20 P: since you abandoned me, i am busy looking at BH
and learning about international futures modelling
ah. he looks bearded and imposing
10:28:58 E: right. but can't remember for sure if he's who someone doesn't like
10:29:00 P: depends on how much of an authoritarian figure he is, i suppose
10:29:04 E: argh.
have two committee members for less than a week, and already they disagree
10:29:37 P: well, i have one and i am not doing any work for him yet
so you are one up right there
am doing some weird simulation thing...this is v distracting!
10:30:27 E: on the BH site?
10:30:41 P: no, on one that links off his
some sort of uni of hawaii thingy
anyway...
10:31:12 E: okay.
10:31:26 P: is this parsons the same guy we know (of)?
10:31:44 E: um. don't know. is it talcott?
10:32:07 P: hmm..okay enough of that for me (was getting into being north korea and trying to save a nuclear bomb devastated USA....)
yes, in CofI
10:32:28 E: would assume so, then
10:32:40 P: back to panel stuff...the APSA NE said may deadline, as i said
10:32:40 E: is it complaining about bad translation?
good. extra time
10:33:08 P: yes, i think so
but the abstract's there and i will put this in for now
10:33:31 E: okay.
10:34:22 P: and will look for listservs...
when is your meeting?
10:34:31 E: right now
10:34:44 P: (btw, is it true that protestants don't have saints?)
10:34:49 E: do you know anything about economic reform in turkey?
10:34:55 P: oh. sorry. should let you do work
10:34:57 E: we are all saints
10:35:00 P: no
10:35:04 E: it's complicated
10:35:08 P: ah...i see
10:35:17 E: we also have saints, but not as many as catholics
10:35:54 P: i think it is rather nice that they still give holidays for saints days
none of that in the USA, eh?
10:36:10 E: st. bede did what?
10:36:27 P: must have prayed a lot...it is apparently prayer day
10:38:17 E: aha--he's the medieval historian
10:38:39 P: maybe it is not st bede after all
yes..that is what i found out...but does not make sense to give a holiday for someone whose "bones were destroyed in the reformation"
oh shrine was destroyed...not bones
should really do some work!
so we sorted out panel stuff
i wish i knew more about processes and relations to have arguments with people about why i am not doing critical discourse analysis
10:40:07 E: but says his memorial day is may 25
10:40:13 P: and could point out books on relational discourse analysis (which they say does not exist)
indeed
calendar must have made up holiday
or something...maybe old viking bloke also called bede
10:41:23 E: possibly. will think about relational/process stuff. am sure we read something that would help
10:41:26 P: no, that is may 7 apparently. big bededay
well, i have my usual suspects (and new heroes) of jutta weldes, etc etc. and, foucault, of course but he is apparently structuralist
and some books that Weberman mentioned (RW, MS, IN) but these are more applied and i think they want to hear about "how to do this relational stuff"
10:42:45 E: stupid danes
10:42:48 P: and have a totally different view of DA
as leading to discovery of ideologies and structures
no, but i got all these books on discourse analysis from the library (after all, i guess i have to DO stuff sometime) and none of them mention relations
more about linguistic analysis and all sorts of conversation analysis and blah blah blah
so then i get the "but it is your subjective opinion" objection
anyway, enough of that too...no one else bothers to think about all that, it seems and they still get jobs
10:45:52 E: but it's a good question to answer. must go talk about turkish economy now--will get back to you on DA stuff. also, Weberman says we're right on the dates.
10:46:22 P: ok..good
i will look for some listservs and try to send the abstract through and let you know
get back to me on DA stuff, please!
10:46:54 E: off to talk about turkey...we should arrange another chat
10:47:11 P: ok..am here till thursday next week
then off to try get ticket changed.
10:47:28 E: maybe wednesday?
10:47:46 P: good. have BIG match for liverpool on so will be here til late late late
though am convinced liv will lose
think of DA stuff...
10:48:16 E: okay.
10:48:19 E: gotta go.
10:48:30 P: wed when?
10:48:55 E: 10:00 dc time?
10:48:55 P: will be online from around whenever i get into uni then
oh ok
great. go talk turkey
12:02:42 E: i give up. CANNOT seem to get my brain to work today
should wander off to find lunch
12:03:19 P: blast. was just writing email to you!
12:03:23 E: but would feel guilty about abandoning rest of group
12:03:26 P: proposing our new roles
12:03:33 E: don't quit on my account
12:03:33 P: no wait and talk (about) turkey
12:03:48 E: sick to death of turkey and its damn inflation
12:04:06 P: just sent it
been avoiding reading awful stuff for StructureMan
12:05:20 E: trade you.
12:05:50 P: nah. you read some of that
btw, what was the rabbit called in monty python...? did it have a name? you can just edit that
12:06:17 E: tim
why do i know that?
12:06:25 P: thanks
i have the singing heidegger as my desktop now
because you know all
:D
wait
tim is the guy with arthur...don’t think rabbit has name after all
ah well
12:07:44 E: hmm. you're right. hang on
rabbit has no name. but is "the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on'
also, has a viscous streak a mile wide
vicious
12:10:35 P: i liked viscous
okay..off to post unfinished post which needs polishing since is dragging analogy out for too too long
12:11:34 E: okay. done pretending to care about turkey, and going to find lunch.
12:11:58 P: good luck. am getting hungry too but will put this up before going
since my thing is in danish...i can’t read if you are there or not...but am off home now
please edit the blog thingy
bye
12:53:24 E: okay. it says "not here, or not admitting it"
have a good weekend
12:53:49 P: oh i see
mine says something in danish
will have to try write paper
yuck
bye
1:57:56 E: Thought you were going home
1:58:13 P: yes, well, my sister came online
to tell me off all these things she wants to do before starting uni
i just feel old and tired now
1:58:37 E: okay. she'll get over it.
1:58:39 P: will send you abstract ...
1:58:58 E: so do i--just found out that i don't need to do my last final, so that's it, I'm officially done with classes
bit of a letdown, really
1:59:19 P: oh i see
but a good one
go enjoy friday!
is husband working (as usual?) ? i guess
silly question really since the US does not have holiday for general prayer day
1:59:54 E: yeah. i still have papers to grade--just no more classes
so not really a student anymore
2:00:15 P: yay
i have finished being one for ages and ages
nothing changes
you become lazier
write nothing
obsess
2:00:41 E: cause that's what i need--less incentive to work
you're not really cheering me up here
2:01:26 P: nah. it is how it is :)
sending email now
2:02:29 E: okay. have to look at blog too-trying to avoid working on papers
2:02:31 P: if we had a couple more people, we could send to conference too
i have to write a paper and give it to these people before heading to copenhagen on thursday
2:02:59 E: but we don't yet--we also need a chair.
2:03:18 P: yes, discussant?
[discussion of travel agency from hell, which is giving priya the runaround on changing her ticket back to the states]
2:04:42 E: dayglo is now playing smiths songs. i love friday.
2:04:54 P: just wish it was not when i have to present a bloody paper
2:04:57 E: if it makes you feel better to think that
2:05:00 P: yay...i like your radio
2:05:14 E: you're online--you should pull it up
2:05:37 P: good point. am JUST (really) about to leave though since it is past 8pm and am hungry
2:05:44 P: though is still sunny outside
2:05:46 E: good idea.
2:05:56 P: is it called dayglo radio?
2:05:57 E: sun? must be nice. still rainy and crap here
2:06:01 P: (for next time)
2:06:02 E: yeah.
2:06:16 P: sun v weak ...and wind v v v high
2:06:20 E: don't have the website, but can't be hard to find. cool 80s stuff
out of san diego
2:06:48 P: on my NI-ish note, i shall go and commune with the breezes and go write a paen (spelling?) to the moon
while listening to exotic and incomprehensible musical instrument
2:07:21 E: ohkay. you should go shave your head, too. i'll go make sure that DB isn't a creep.
2:07:27 P: which i shall then learn to play and talk about in next discussion
2:07:45 E: sounds like you've done your research.
as NI, you get to take a sabbatical to sit around and read for a year.
2:08:12 P: am ordering my nepali songs CD right now
ah..is that not what i am doing here...in a smaller capacity than the great NI of course
2:08:29 E: alternative forms of speech for the other?
2:08:33 P: :)
yes...other knows his own words and yet learns the dominant's too
the other is good at multitasking
2:09:04 E: lucky other
2:09:12 P: yeah.
okay enough!
2:09:24 E: go home.
2:09:31 P: i will
gone now.
maybe we should blog parts of this as a genealogy of panel building..so we avoid writing a post
had not thought about that
good weekend
btw
2:10:08 E: maybe. have just discovered that DB is also a racecar driver
well, the name is the same
2:10:36 P: wowwwww!!! you get the cool (sexy?) racecar driver and i get bald arty farty bloke?
story of my life
2:10:46 E: but the right one teaches a class on work, wealth, and well-being
2:10:58 P: well-being?
you can teach classes for that?
we are so doing the wrong things
2:11:18 E: guess so. I'm switching majors
2:11:29 P: to well-being?
2:11:36 E: why not?
2:11:41 P: off to contemplate what that might mean
it's a tautology
2:11:51 E: ugh. it's actually an economics class
2:11:54 P: (term?)
oh...hahhaaha. well being
2:12:20 E: also some stuff on money making people happy.
2:12:49 P: well, that is true enough
gone now...815pm
yuck
2:13:00 E: doesn't seem to fit with the book, though
just walk away.
you can do it.
2:13:18 P: can't ... too tempting to sit here
2:13:20 E: i won't say anything too interesting
2:13:28 P: all right. i will be around on wednesday, all going well
2:13:33 E: will put it in an email instead
2:13:44 P: maybe someone will really really want to be on our panel
2:13:51 E: that would be cool
2:13:52 P: can't think of any TUWSNBN person who might be
2:14:04 E: me neither. also, two dept grads probably enough
2:14:05 P: maybe you can publicise it at the gtown thing
they are foreign policy wonks and have a hospital
that is security and health, right?
2:14:31 E: will do. panels have to have three or four presenters, so we only really need one more
they have a security ma
2:14:45 P: ok..perfect.
2:14:52 E: seriously, go home.
2:14:55 P: publicise there. Weberman’s friend is a nice bloke anyway
if he is the same one i am thinking of
ahh...ok. ok
2:15:06 E: WeberBud? think he can be a prick
but i could be wrong
2:15:14 P: bus won't get here til 830 anyway
P: ahh...have never talked to him
P: conclusion based on...?
2:15:37 E: he's like Weberman, only not as funny
very opinionated and talks over people. i hate that.
2:15:56 P: was he at QG dinner
ahhh...but that is what i thought about Weberman
2:16:07 E: Weberman has a chili pepper from ratemyprofs. somebody thinks he's hot. Is that funny, or creepy?
2:16:14 P: when he was at the StructureMan lunch. All about contexts. I am considered highly annoying and "American" here (shocking)
heheeeeeee
okay now i am waiting for bus
so officially am gone
2:16:39 E: WeberBud was at dinner. hence my opinion. but not enough info to say for sure. Maybe he was just excited about UFOs. That’s probably it.
and yet you remain
2:17:07 P: ah. i see. he was at the other dinner too but came too late to have opinions
yes, bus not for another 13 mins
will leave in five
and wait in cold bus stop for a while
2:17:33 E: will withhold judgment on WeberBud until i have more data points
sounds like fun
2:17:42 P: ok..hopefully at this gig
but publicise our thing he will
2:17:52 E: am still trying to see reason for Weberman being hot
2:17:52 P: if he was a foot taller and had muscles...nah not even then :-)
2:18:32 E: exactly. i don't get it.
it's like four people who gave him this rating
hadn't ever thought about it. now I'm going to have to.
2:18:46 P: maybe he put that up himself?
2:18:49 E: not just one person.
2:18:59 P: ahhhhh
even weirder
2:19:29 E: right. the standard must be skewed
2:19:39 P: all right...rushing off now..
2:19:44 E: picturing undergrads sighing over discussions of weber.
fluttering eyelashes
sending little notes over IM
lining up to run the slide show
2:19:53 P: highly amused at someone finding Weberman fanciable
2:20:04 E: go home. i'll save this and we can post it
2:20:22 P: gone. i think. enjoy weekend
off to write about security imaginary.
2:20:38 E: GO HOME!
2:20:42 P: since have decided that will be my paper topic
bus not yet here
yet
but goneeeeeee!

posted by Elizabeth @ 4:24 PM